The State of Religious Freedom in America An Evangelical Perspective

The State of Religious Freedom in America An Evangelical Perspective By Galen Carey,

NAE Vice President for Government Relations Working to protect religious freedom and liberty of conscience is the first of seven principles of evangelical political engagement, as set forth in “For the Health of the Nation,” the NAE’s platform and call to civic responsibility.

Religious freedom is “both historically and logically at the foundation of the American experiment…Because human beings are responsible to God, these [first amendment] guarantees are crucial to the exercise of their God-given freedom.”

The NAE makes clear in “For the Health of the Nation” that evangelicals promote and defend religious freedom not only for ourselves, but for those of all faiths and none: “As God sends the rain on the just and on the unjust, so those who obey and those who disobey God coexist in society and share in its blessings.” Evangelicals have advocated for the protection of Jews, Muslims, Native Americans and many others, as well as for those of other Christian traditions. Evangelicals do not practice religious circumcision, but when the City of San Francisco attempted to ban the practice, the NAE strongly objected, knowing of the significance of this ceremony for Jews, Muslims and others.

The NAE supports the separation of church and state, rightly understood. The establishment clause “is directed only at government and restrains its power.” Our founders understood the corrupting impact that government influence and control can have on religious institutions. But they did not seek to scrub public life of all traces of religion. “Participating in the public square does not require people to put aside their beliefs or suspend the practice of their religion…. When government assists nongovernmental organizations as part of an evenhanded educational, social service or health care program, religious organizations do not become ‘state actors’ with constitutional duties.”

When religious institutions, like their secular counterparts, partner with government, they do not lose the right to select staff that share the organization’s core commitments.

While the first amendment remains firmly ensconced in our constitution, and neither the establishment nor the free exercise clauses are at risk of repeal, we do see some challenges. If the sky is not, as some allege, falling, there are at least a few storm clouds on the horizon.

We begin this discussion, though, not with storm clouds but with a very bright spot, the Hosanna Tabor decision, in which nine Justices on a sharply divided Supreme Court unanimously affirmed the right of religious organizations to choose their own leaders, a legal principle commonly known as the ministerial exception. Hosanna is widely regarded as the most significant religious freedom case in at least the past two decades, affirming a legal principle long upheld by lower courts but never before addressed by the Supreme Court. The case is all the more remarkable because of the Court’s unanimous rejection of the administration’s surprising argument that religious organizations deserve no more deference under federal law than a Kiwanis or Rotary Club. It is particularly noteworthy that the Court grounded its decision in the establishment clause, as well as the free exercise clause. This is a case that will be cited for years to come.

Given the Hosanna Tabor decision, it is perhaps surprising that a number of universities seem to be moving in the direction of less deference to religious freedom. In 2010 the Supreme Court granted the UC Hastings College of the Law the right to discriminate against religious student organizations that maintain particular belief or behavior standards for their leaders. Crucial to the Hastings decision was the existence of a rather unusual “all-comers” policy that requires, for example, recognized Democratic student groups to admit Republicans as members and leaders, and Jewish student groups to admit Muslims. The policy provides an opening for hostile takeovers by students who may not share the established goals of the group.

More recently, private schools, including notably Vanderbilt University in Tennessee have begun to discriminate against religious student groups. For example, the InterVarsity chapter at Vanderbilt has been informed that it will be deregistered unless it agrees to amend its constitution to remove “personal commitment to Jesus Christ” as a criterion for selection of its student leaders. Altogether, more than a dozen religious student groups are likely to be expelled from campus by the time freshmen arrive in August. The great irony here is that the universities are discriminating in the name of upholding nondiscrimination policies. In the Vanderbilt case, school authorities have explicitly exempted fraternities and sororities from the new policy, but they see no need to exempt religious organizations.

If even universities, with their adult students presumably ready for exposure to the marketplace of ideas, still seek to put their institutional thumb on the scale to the detriment of religion, the issues are even more complex at the secondary and elementary school level. The NAE has joined several cases protecting free speech rights of students, while recognizing the constraints of the “captive audience” and the responsibility of school officials to maintain viewpoint neutrality and avoid endorsement or rejection of unpopular but protected ideas. We have also recently endorsed guidelines for school administrators that seek to protect students from both bullying and censorship. And in New York, we support the right of religious groups to utilize space in public schools on the same basis as non-religious groups.

While the clash of religious freedom and nondiscrimination policies arises in several areas, conflicts are particularly apparent in the area of evolving policies on sexual orientation. The repeal of the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy, for example, sets up a range of religious freedom issues for service members and chaplains who hold religious views on the practice of homosexuality, and particularly on the redefinition of marriage. Already we are aware of chaplains who have withdrawn on grounds of conscience from participation in marriage enrichment and family strengthening programs that serve same-sex couples. Will those holding traditional views be stigmatized, marginalized, and eventually pushed out of the military? Time will tell. An amendment to the Defense Authorization bill protecting the conscience rights of chaplains and service members has been approved by the House Armed Services Committee, but it faces an uncertain fate when it reaches the Senate.

Longer term, the attempts to redefine marriage portend particular difficulties for those who, whether for religious or other reasons, uphold the historic view of marriage. Rather than merely extending the benefits of marriage to a new class of beneficiaries, a change to the basic concept that marriage requires both a man and a woman amounts to a radical uprooting of the whole idea of marriage. Where this process has moved forward, we are already seeing a growing stigmatization of those who disagree. Those holding traditional views are increasingly treated as the moral equivalent of racists and bigots. In those places, many predict, actual punishment will not be far behind.

In January of this year, evangelical leaders joined Catholics, Jews, Mormons and others to articulate the religious freedom implications of redefining marriage. I commend the letter for careful study. It can be found on the NAE website

(http://www.nae.net/resources/news/714-open-letter-on-marriage-and-religious-freedom.)

The letter argues that changing the definition of marriage will result in “forcing or pressuring both individuals and religious organizations — throughout their operations, well beyond religious ceremonies — to treat same-sex sexual conduct as the moral equivalent of marital sexual conduct.” This pressure will in turn lead to conflicts. The letter points out that “altering the civil definition of ‘marriage’ does not change one law, but hundreds, even thousands, at once. By a single stroke, every law where rights depend on marital status — such as employment discrimination, employment benefits, adoption, education, healthcare, elder care, housing, property, and taxation — will change so that same-sex sexual relationships must be treated as if they were marriage. That requirement, in turn, will apply to religious people and groups in the ordinary course of their many private or public occupations and ministries—including running schools, hospitals, nursing homes and other housing facilities, providing adoption and counseling services, and many others.”

We turn now from marriage to the issue that has captured so many headlines: The requirement proposed by the administration last August and finalized in February, mandating the inclusion of sterilization, contraception and certain drugs that may operate as abortafacients, in most health insurance policies, beginning August 1, 2012. While the media has framed the controversy as an argument over contraception — something to which most evangelicals do not object — or even as part of the struggle for women’s health care — something evangelicals support — a fundamental religious freedom principle is also at stake.

In line with the protection and deference accorded religious organizations in the Constitution as well as in federal law and policy, the health insurance regulations as finalized by the administration on February 10 do contain a religious exemption. However, the exemption protects only a small subset of religious organizations, those that are incorporated as houses of worship, that exist primarily to inculcate religious values, and that hire and serve primarily their own members. This narrow exemption leaves unprotected the majority of religious organizations that take seriously the call to serve those in need regardless of creed. The announcement and finalization of this regulation was accompanied by a flurry of trial balloons about various “accommodations” that may be provided to second-tier religious organizations, including schemes in which insurance companies or other third parties might be conscripted to actually provide the religiously objectionable services and products to beneficiaries of the religious organization’s insurance policy.

For evangelicals, who do not object to the provision of sterilization or contraception services, so long as these do not involve the commission of chemical abortions, the central issue here is the explicit segmentation of religious organizations into two classes: those that are exempted and those that are accommodated. There are reasons to believe that the promised accommodations for the second class religious organizations may prove inadequate or unworkable. But even if they “work”, an unfortunate precedent will have been set: that the government may compel organizations acknowledged to be religious to provide, with their own funds, insurance policies that directly or indirectly offer employees and their families, including minor children, confidential access to products or procedures that those organizations believe to be morally wrong.

Looking ahead, next year will mark the 20th anniversary of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), landmark legislation correcting a disappointing Supreme Court decision in the Employment Division v. Smith case. RFRA enjoyed unusually broad support, passing the House unanimously and the Senate on a 97-3 vote. In the two decades since its passage, RFRA has never been amended, although there have been stealth attempts in recent years, including one last year related to military grooming and another this year related to environmental regulations on federal lands near the border. In the most recent case RFRA appears, not by name, but only by number in a long list of federal laws that would be overridden. The NAE opposes any attempts to amend RFRA. As always, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Evangelical concern for religious freedom does not, of course, stop at the national borders. Indeed, the abuses abroad are frequently more extreme and more deadly, and the protection less reliable than what we enjoy in the United States. Evangelicals support missionaries and humanitarian workers in virtually every country of the world. We are deeply concerned about the extent and nature of religious persecution across almost all regions and religions. Freedom House estimates that more than half of the world’s population (57 percent) lives in countries that are either not free or only partly free. Both the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) and the Department of State issue annual reports on religious freedom, and identify countries of particular concern to the United States. These are well worth studying.

Of particular concern to evangelicals are laws banning or punishing conversion from one religion to another. The case of Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani, imprisoned and sentenced to death in Iran for allegedly converting from Islam to Christianity, has gained considerable attention and should be seen as symbolic of the many thousands who face similar circumstances.

Mobs in many countries dispense with even the appearance of institutional justice. Churches and other houses of worship are attacked, worshippers killed, often with impunity. The erosion of protection for religious minorities in the Middle East is particularly alarming. Centuries old communities are being decimated.

Laws on blasphemy and defamation of religions are also highly problematic. These frequently function as sources of political as well as religious repression. Indeed, by some measures a majority of those undergoing religious persecution today suffer at the hands of persecutors of the same faith.

By law, U.S. foreign policy is required to promote international religious freedom and to use both carrots and sticks to encourage governments to strengthen religious freedom. Sanctions, however, can be waived and frequently are. In other cases sanctions are double-hatted so that religious freedom violations do not result in any additional pressure being applied. At present only one country in the world, Eritrea, has sanctions specifically related to religious freedom violations.

Evangelicals were actively involved in the advocacy leading to the passage of the International Religious Freedom Act in 1998. More recently, after some nail-biting brinksmanship, the USCIRF was reauthorized for another three years. Term limits, retroactively applied, mean that a mostly new set of Commissioners will soon take office. A 30 percent budget cut means that USCIRF’s ability to travel and document religious freedom abuses will likely be somewhat curtailed.

The position of Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom was vacant for the first half of the Obama administration. As in past administrations, the Ambassador’s Office is buried under several layers of State Department bureaucracy. The NAE continues to advocate for more vigorous U.S. government leadership in promoting religious freedom. At the same time evangelicals are also actively engaged in track II diplomacy and in private efforts to aid victims of persecution. We also work to influence both government and civil society toward greater respect for the inherent dignity and freedom of every human being. (Galen Carey, June 5, 2012)

Pro-Life is WAY More Than “Pro-birth/anti-abortion”

At Mercy Church we talk about being holistically pro-life – abortion, war, death-penalty and so on are life issues from a Jesus’ teachings perspective.

AND here’s the deal we are CAUSING abortions IN the church by making it SO POLITICAL!!! The Devil wins the house and the nation on this one.  We create such an unredemptive, two-teir, false-holiness, performing and hiding, unable to affirm secondary pleasures and boundaries culture – that we are creating molech by our POLITICAL CIVIL RELIGION FALSE version of the faith.

The Devil wins when he gets the church to trade the power of God’s redeeming and forgiving and restoring and confessing and healing love revealed fully in Jesus and made real by the shedding of His blood…for the power of the civil religion version of Christianity (or Islam or pop atheism, etc.).

Political pastors on the issues of life will have more blood on their hands than they realize.  They will have to answer Jesus as to why their politics got in the way of the Mission of Jesus to save, heal and redeem.   Why they created a culture of abortion in the church by protecting and projecting false holiness – just like the religious politicians of Jesus day.

The National Association of Evangelicals is attempting to change the tone.  Nothing but praise from this Jesus-loving, Bible-teaching, spirit-filled pastor here.

Be pro-life in the house of God first and foremost.  Love instead of judge – it will change the next generation.

Create a spiritual family that can show another way.  Help out a single mother.  Love, include, and lift up the Biblical standards of sex and the affirmation of pleasure, children and grace because ALL HAVE FALLEN SHORT.

Pregnant?  You are welcome at Mercy Church.  The path to holiness is not hiding, hissing or hating.

 

 

 

(Liberal) Skepticism vs. (Orthodox) Doubt – Mercy Vision Question with Freedom!

Shel / Shelby Boese – So when we talk about questioning with freedom at Mercy Church – it’s the “catholic doubt” kind.  This is difference from liberal skepticism…enjoy!  Also why I cringe at the lefties in MCUSA trying to reduce doctrine of the body down to the modernistic soft-science views of orientation and sexuality (and of course so much more as well).

 

FYI here is the “money” line for me:

But there is also an important difference between emergent skeptics and catholic doubters: The new kind of skeptics want the faith to be cut down to the size of their doubt, to conform to their suspicions.”

Doubt is taken to be sufficient warrant for jettisoning what occasions our disbelief and discomfort, cutting a scandalizing God down to the size of our believing. For the new doubters, if I can’t believe it, it can’t be true. If orthodoxy is unbelievable, then let’s come up with a rendition we can believe in….

AND

It’s not a matter of coming up with a Gospel I can live with; it’s a matter of learning to live with all of the scandal of the Gospel–and that can take a lifetime.” 
 
(Liberal) Skepticism vs. (Orthodox) Doubt
from Fors Clavigera by noreply@blogger.com (James K.A. Smith)

 

There are certain streams of “emerging” Christianity which seem to think that doubt is some revolutionary new stance that has finally had permission to emerge now that we are “new kinds of Christians.” Formerly oppressed by fundamentalisms that quashed any hint of uncertainty, such Christians are at pains to point out that we can never be certain. But having still accepted the modern equation of knowledge with certainty, they also end up professing that we can’t know. So what we’re left with is not doubt, but skepticism.
  

It seems that those who think permission to doubt is some radically new possibility for Christians are the same people who think that a concern for justice is some “secret message” of Jesus heretofore hidden from Christianity–when, in fact, it just means that it was hidden from them in the pietistic enclaves of their early formation. In a similar way, doubt is as old as faith. As Kierkegaard suggested in one of his journals, “doubt comes into the world through faith.” 
  
As I’ve suggested elsewhere, some of our greatest saints have been our greatest doubters, too. Some of our exemplary believers have also been masters of suspicion. The new kind of doubters have nothing on the likes of Graham Greene or Mother Teresa orBernanos’ country priest or Endo’s Jesuit missionaries.

  

But there is also an important difference between emergent skeptics and catholic doubters: The new kind of skeptics want the faith to be cut down to the size of their doubt, to conform to their suspicions. Doubt is taken to be sufficient warrant for jettisoning what occasions our disbelief and discomfort, cutting a scandalizing God down to the size of our believing. For the new doubters, if I can’t believe it, it can’t be true. If orthodoxy is unbelievable, then let’s come up with a rendition we can believe in.

  

But for catholic doubters, God is not subject to my doubts. Rather, like the movements of a lament psalm, all of the scandalizing, unbelievable aspects of an inscrutable God are the target of my doubts–but the catholic doubter would never dream that this is occasion for revising the faith, cutting it down to the measure of what I can live with. It’s not a matter of coming up with a Gospel I can live with; it’s a matter of learning to live with all of the scandal of the Gospel–and that can take a lifetime.
  

Graham Greene’s “whiskey priest” doesn’t for a moment think that the church should revise its doctrine and standards in order to make him feel comfortable about his fornication–even if he might lament what seems to be a denial of some feature of his humannness. All of his doubts and suspicion and resistance are not skeptical gambits that set him off in search of a liberal Christianity he can live with; they are, instead, features of a life of sanctification, or lack thereof. And no one is surprised by that. The prayer of the doubter is not, “Lord I believe, conform to the measure of my unbelief,” but rather: “Lord I believe, help thou my unbelief.”

  

For just this reason orthodox, catholic faith has always been able to absorb doubt as a feature of discipleship: indeed, the church is full of doubters. It is the grace of our scandalous God that welcomes them.

Personal Incomes Up in SD…Be Thankful!

Shel Boese / Shelby Boese, Corey reposted some stats that just came out with a little analysis…I might add it seems the fear mongering “end of the world” talk is part of the human psyche.  There are always secular and religious apocalyptic theories and we tend to latch on to them for various purposes.

Political, economic, religious, social…have you examined your fear buttons lately in light of the economic apocalptic theories?

Jesus promises that if we center on down in Him in relationship and His teachings we need not be paralyzed or driven by hate or fear.  That His Spirit helps us transcend the brokenness within that is driven by fear and hate.  Therefore the more “heavenly minded” we become the more grittier and joyful and engaged we can be in “real life” without dehumanizing our way to goals that do not ultimately satisfy nor bring security.

Righteousness (right peace-making relationships with God and each other), peace (soundness of mind not that re-orders our emotions), and joy (an all consuming sense of delight in that which is a gift- everything) are promised as we seek the Kingdom of God now in anticipation of a re-creation/new creation one day.

 

OK so ….

Hey, Sioux Falls! Get your personal income growth back in gear! According to the latest data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, personal income in the Sioux Falls metro area (Minnehaha, McCook, Turner, and Lincoln counties) grew 1.6% in 2010, from $9.47 billion to $9.62 billion. That’s positive, but so was the growth rate in 362 of the country’s 366 metro areas. Around the country, the average personal income growth rate in the big metros was 2.9%. Personal income grew in every metro but four (Grand Junction, CO; Las Vegas-Paradise, NV; Reno-Sparks, NV; and Carson City, NV).

Sioux Falls actually improved over its 2009 personal income growth rate of 0.3%, a year when only 124 metros posted positive numbers in that column. But now with everyone else growing, 2010′s slow and steady performance ranks Sioux Falls just 335th out of the 366 metros.

Personal Income Growth, 2009-2010, Metros by Quintile | Bureau of Economic Analysis

Just down the road, the Sioux City metro enjoyed a good bounce back from a rough 2009. Our Iowegian/Dakota Dunesian friends spent 2009 losing 1.4% of their personal income. In 2010, they cranked up their personal income 3.2%

Meanwhile, across the other river, the Rapid City metro (Pennington and Meade) saw a similar turnaround. It rose from from 0.3% shrinkage in personal income in 2009 to 3.2% growth in 2010. That’s a climb from $4.66 billion to $4.81 billion.

Set growth aside and look at the raw dollar figures. The total personal income in South Dakota in 2010 was $31.6 billion. Out of every $100 made in South Dakota last year, $30.45 was made in the Sioux Falls metro, while $15.21 was made in the Rapid City metro. Nearly half of our state wealth is generated in those two metro areas.

Finding Hope After a Miscarriage

Shel Boese / Shelby Boese – This was on RELEVANT Magazines FB update today – an article on the pain of miscarriage.  I hope this speaks to anyone who needs to hear this.  Being  a church of a lot of young people (and the other end of the age spectrum too – we have lots of people in 20-30s, starting to grow in the 40-60s (our smallest age group so far), and a large 60-90s group) this is a real issue and not an easy one to talk about. ..

Finding Hope After a Miscarriage

Jesse Harden

I came home to my wife writhing in pain as her body rejected the life that was God’s gift to us for only 8 short weeks. We were not prepared for this. No one in our family has had a miscarriage. Everyone that got pregnant stayed pregnant. Why was this happening?

 

 

The miscarriage was the most violent and painful thing I’ve watched anyone go through. Labor pains are supposed to give way to life, but this pain served no such purpose. There was no “but for the joy set before her” in my wife’s eyes as she went through these contractions. This pain gave birth to death and we knew it. I felt helpless as I held Joanna’s hand and dabbed her forehead with a washcloth and held the bucket for her to puke in when the pain got to be too much.

In the weeks that followed the real pain commenced. The physical pain was brutal, but I was not prepared for the deep spiritual and emotional pain that was to follow. There is an incredibly deep bond that God allows to develop between a woman and her baby in utero. Even in these short weeks, Joanna loved this child and had become attached to this person growing inside of her. Add on top of this our Christian conviction that God had “knit this baby together in his mother’s womb.” How does God knit a life only to allow it to be torn apart? This was a painful question that led to confusion and doubt.

Honestly, the pain was not as sharp for me. To me, the child was abstract – an idea, not a reality. Since it was so early in the pregnancy, Joanna was not showing. She had felt the change, but I had observed nothing. It was not as palpable for me.

This affected our marriage significantly. I tried to be sensitive, understanding and empathetic, but could not summon the emotions that validated my sense of loss like Joanna needed. She wondered why I didn’t cry – if I even cared. She needed someone to cry with her and share her pain and I couldn’t do it. Instead, I tried to give her the answers to her grief. I tried to be her pastor rather than her husband, partner, and friend. I tried to “fix” her, but she needed someone to hold her.

Unfortunately, the church held her no better than her husband. It’s funny how people in the church fear pain in others. We find it awkward and uncomfortable. We don’t know what to say so we either avoid interaction beyond the superficial or we speak without grace, sensitivity or attentiveness to the Spirit. We needed people to tell us that they knew we were hurting without telling us how to heal. We needed people to remind us that we weren’t alone without handing out religious clichés or greeting card anecdotes.

Healing is slow. We could not get pregnant in the months and years following and began pursuing adoption sooner than we had intended. We went to specialists and they couldn’t find anything “wrong.” It’s as if Joanna’s body simply refuses to entertain the prospect of such pain again. This prolongs the intensity of the pain that Joanna is experiencing. As a young couple in the “prime of life” you are surrounded by babies. Babies and pregnant women are everywhere! You can’t escape them! Our siblings have had six healthy babies since our miscarriage. Cousins, friends, teenage girls in our youth group and even Clay Aiken and Elton John are having babies!

Each announcement of a new life is bittersweet. We never begrudge someone the joy of their pregnancy, but the sorrow is in the reminder of our loss and the unfulfilled desire we have to be called “mom” and “dad” and to raise a person to love God, others, soccer and art. There are times when people unthinkingly ask, “When are you guys going to have kids?” as if we have any control over it. Others say, “Aren’t you glad you don’t have to put up with all of this?” Or, “Are you sure you want kids?” referring to their screaming, pooping child. The answer is “Yes! We want to change diapers, clean-up puke and get embarrassed in the grocery store! We have an aching hole in our hearts!”

To be fair, some questions came from people unaware of our struggle. This has led me to be much more sensitive in the questions I ask people concerning family planning or flippant comments regarding the inconvenience of child rearing in front of others.

It’s been about four years since our miscarriage and ensuing struggle with infertility and the adoption process. We’ve learned many lessons through these painful trials. Chances are you know someone struggling with infertility or loss from a miscarriage.  Here are some suggestions to lovingly navigate the waters of their pain:

 

  • Be quick in compassion. Write a note or speak with them in church communicating your thoughts and prayers are with them, avoiding advice or Christian clichés.
  • Persevere in your concern. So often we are good at triage care. We are there for people in the hours, days and weeks following a painful experience, but then forget to persevere, remembering their pain may last months or years afterward. Try to remember significant dates associated with the loss and keep them in mind when others announce new life.
  • Watch your words. Be careful how you talk about children or parenting around childless couples. Be aware of how certain statements or questions may ”hit” someone struggling with infertility.

 
God is not wasting our pain. We continue to experience healing and He is graciously giving us the joy of anticipating the arrival of a son from South Korea whom we have not yet met. Together, Joanna and I will embark on the journey of parenthood carrying always the memory of our loss with the hope of comforting others with the same comfort by which we have been comforted (2 Corinthians 1:3).

Jesse Harden is an associate pastor in Albuquerque, NM. He’s married to Joanna and they have one son, Jaxon, who will hopefully be in their home by the end of the year.

 

John Stott on the Self-Substitution of God

Stott on The Self-Substitution of God from Desiring God Blog by Michael Johnson

Shel Boese ( Shelby Boese ): Many people get the subsitutionary atonement theory wrong – many fundamentalists miss the right emphasis and focus on wrath – many who regret this view outright (and wrongly so) are rejecting the fundamentalist versions.
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We strongly reject, therefore, every explanation of the death of Christ which does not have at its centre the principle of ‘satisfaction through substitution’, indeed divine self-satisfaction through divine self-substitution.

The cross was not:

a commercial bargain with the devil, let alone one which tricked and trapped him;

nor an exact equivalent, a quid pro quo to satisfy a code of honour or technical point of law;

nor a compulsory submission by God to some moral authority above him from which he could not otherwise escape;

nor a punishment of a meek Christ by a harsh and punitive Father;

nor a procurement of salvation by a loving Christ from a mean and reluctant Father;

nor an action of the Father which bypassed Christ as Mediator.

Instead, the righteous, loving Father humbled himself to become in and through his only Son flesh, sin and a curse for us, in order to redeem us without compromising his own character.

The theological words ‘satisfaction’ and ‘substitution’ need to be carefully defined and safeguarded, but they cannot in any circumstance be given up. The biblical gospel of atonement is of God satisfying himself by substituting himself for us.

 

John Stott, The Cross of Christ (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1986), 159-160.

Emphasis and formatting mine.

Internetmonk: The Insight of Nuns

The Insight of Nuns

from internetmonk.com by Chaplain Mike

By Chaplain Mike

Many years ago, I read an article about Bill Leslie, pastor of the inner city Lasalle St. Church in Chicago. This demanding ministry had brought him to a point of exhaustion. On the advice of a friend, he went to a nearby Catholic retreat center that the church had used and spoke to a nun known as a wise spiritual counselor.

Pastor Leslie had hit bottom. When asked for one word that described how he felt, he said, “Raped.” He also described feeling like an overused water pump. Everyone who walked by grabbed the handle and pumped. He was drained and dry.

Using the pump imagery, this kind sister helped him see that his pipe didn’t go deep enough into the reservoirs of God’s fullness. Because his own inner resources were not sufficient, his supply was quickly used up. She made reference to John 7, where Jesus says, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’”

Then she winked and said, “I guess what I’m really saying to you, Bill, is that you need a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.”

Wait! Isn’t that what an evangelical pastor is supposed to say to “heretical” Roman Catholics?

 

In Eugene Peterson’s memoir, he tells about a friendship he developed with a Carmelite nun, Sister Genevieve. An acquaintance had introduced them and they became friends. The pastor visited the monastery to learn about contemplative prayer, she visited the Peterson home for meals, and even came on occasion to stay with them in Montana when they were on vacation.

Sister Genevieve was one of many who reminded the pastor that spirituality is earthy. Once, when she suspected he was romanticizing her “holy” life of prayer and community, she responded by asking him if he found it hard to be married. When he admitted it was the hardest thing he had ever done, she replied, “How would you like to be married to thirteen women? Some of these nuns can be real bitches.”

In another conversation, we had been talking about the Lord’s Prayer. I interrupted the flow of conversation by saying, “Do you know the petition that I have the hardest time praying, entering into, knowing what I am praying?”

“Of course—’Deliver us from evil.’”

“How did you know that?”

“Oh, you Protestants. You are so naive about evil. You know everything about sin, but nothing about evil—the prevalence of evil, the persistence of evil especially in holy places, like this monastery—and like your congregation. The mystery of evil. You make cartoon characters out of evil so that you don’t have to deal with it in your own households and workplaces, crouching at the door every time you open it. Or else you deny it and label everything that is wrong with the world as a sin you can name and then take charge of getting rid of.”

• The Pastor: A Memoir, p. 229

Here’s one Protestant saying, “Ouch.” What is it about these nuns?

 

How Shall We Pray About the Upheavals in the Middle East? from Desiring God Blog by John Piper

[Shel: Peacemaking PRAYER matters!!!  As you know I have a love-hate relationship (not personal at all!) with John Piper.  But when there is something I really agree with him on I try to point that out.  Since SO MANY of the foaming Neo-Reformed Fundamentalists are followers of his (then Jesus - ok that was low ;-) ) I do feel at times an urge to strongly critique him, Driscoll and Mohler - they afterall think Freewill/Arminians are barely Christian and consistently misrepresent the historical, orthodox and Biblical case for Freewill theism.]

How Shall We Pray About the Upheavals in the Middle East?

John Piper

In 1 Timothy 2:1–4, Paul connects prayer for “all who are in high positions” with a peaceful life for the followers of Jesus, and with his desire for all people to be saved.

First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

There are two goals in praying for kings and leaders—that is, for political structures that exist, or might exist, in the Middle East.

1. We pray for political leaders and structures . . . “that we [the followers of Jesus] may lead a peaceful and quiet life godly and dignified in every way.”

J. N. D. Kelly comments, “In other words, not being exposed to the suspicion of disloyalty, they will be allowed to practice their religion without fear of disturbance and to lead the morally serious lives appropriate to it.” (The Pastoral Epistles, p. 61). That is one important thing we should pray for.

2. We pray for this politically sustained freedom and peace so that more and more people would be saved.

This is found in verse 3: “This [politically protected peaceable life] is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved.” In other words, God approves of this kind of peaceable situation for believers (and the prayers that pursue it) because he wants more people to be saved.

The assumption is that a stable, peaceable situation in general makes for better long-term effective evangelism and missions. Very few persecuted churches that fear for their lives are mounting great global mission efforts to complete the Great Commission. As Philip Ryken writes in his commentary on 1 Timothy, “Peacetime mission is part of God’s plan for the salvation of the world, so pray for peace” (p. 63).

When we pray for the Middle East, we should be praying mainly for conditions to prevail that sustain freedom and peace for the followers of Jesus, so that the gospel would run and triumph, and millions would turn to Christ and be saved for his great glory.

Such conditions would include freedom for other religions too, since Christians do not spread their faith by the sword, but by proclamation and service (John 18:36).

Father in heaven, and Lord of all nations, rule over the Middle East in these tumultuous days so that political leaders and laws and practices are established that support peace and freedom for the followers of your Son. We praise you that you are not a tribal deity, and that you desire people of all ethnic groups to be saved through the blood and righteousness of Jesus Christ. In ways we cannot imagine, O God, govern the minds and hearts and systems and regimes and authority structures and intrigues and revolutions and constitutions and localities and neighborhood networks so that your people have protection, provision, peace, and spiritual power to lead holy lives, filled with fruitful passion to reach millions with the gospel. In Jesus’ name, Amen.